Plato’s Republic was actually a decent read once I
got past all of the “Socrates is god and I agree with everything he says” dialogue.
I liked the fact that he started out really simple when he was building his
city because it definitely caught my interest and made me focus more. Right
away, I was a little turned off with how much he wanted to control the people
in his city. It seemed like right from the start; the only freedom they had was
in their choice of clothing. I didn’t like the idea that the epics are
basically going to be destroyed because Plato thinks that it would be in the
best interest of the people living in his city if all of the violent scenes are
taken out of the stories so that his people do not learn about anything bad. Next
I hated the idea that people had no choice in their occupations and could not
do anything about it if they wanted to change it. Human beings are natural
learners and if they only learn one thing then they will never be able to grow.
People can be taught right from wrong but what path they choose should be up to
them which is why I didn’t agree with this idea. I found that when I was
reading this my first instinct was to look for contradictions and flaws in how Plato
planned to run his city. He had a lot of support for most of his plans, so I
was a little upset that I didn’t get to debate him on much. But someone made
the argument in the last class to the idea that Plato is essentially raising
these people like infants, but if he plans to have the people fight to defend
their land, they have never been exposed to anything bad, so how are they going
to be able to defend themselves? Finally
I don’t agree with the idea that wealth and poverty make a man worse at his
craft. If anything I would say that wealth could motivate a worker to work more
because he is being rewarded with money, not become lazy.
Hey Gwen, I totally agree that Plato’s logic about how things are to be run in his city is not going to end well. Limiting a person’s choice or free will essentially takes away what makes an individual unique. As I read your post, I visualize drones of people that are brainwashed into following the lead of one, opposed to thinking freely about life. Not exposing people to violence could be extremely beneficial, but just as you said if people were not exposed, how would they defend a republic, let alone themselves. Great points! -Jesus
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